Does a spell getting Defy's count towards Battering Ram reduce cost?
Yes - a countered spell does count as played toward Battering Ram's cost reduction.
The answer used to be no, but starting with Vendetta the core rules were updated to clarify all "Play" definitions and changed this interaction.
The Rule 419.4.b. explicitly addresses this interaction:
Non-triggered abilities that check cards being played do so by means of referencing whether said cards have been Finalized. Example: A player plays a spell, which is countered by Defy. Any Legion abilities of game objects controlled by that same player will be active. Example: A player plays a spell, which is countered by Defy. If that player plays Battering Ram and has played no other cards that turn, it will cost [4] Energy.
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September 4, 2026 · reviewed by 243326460528427008
CorrectionVendetta's Core Rules changes
Yes - a countered spell does count as played toward Battering Ram's cost reduction. The answer used to be no, but starting with Vendetta the core rules were updated to clarify all "Play" definitions and changed this interaction. The Rule 419.4.b. explicitly addresses this interaction: Non-triggered abilities that check cards being played do so by means of referencing whether said cards have been Finalized. Example: A player plays a spell, which is countered by Defy. Any Legion abilities of game objects controlled by that same player will be active. Example: A player plays a spell, which is countered by Defy. If that player plays Battering Ram and has played no other cards that turn, it will cost [4] Energy.
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